WikiPedia talk:Recentchanges

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The content of Wikipedia:Recentchanges is what appears at the top of Special:Recentchanges (which is what you get if you click the Recent changes link on the quick bar). Since this page is highly visible, it is permanently protected to prevent vandalism.

This talk page is for discussing what might go on Wikipedia:Recentchanges.

For an explanation of Special:Recentchanges, see Wikipedia:Recent changes and m:MediaWiki User's Guide: The Recent Changes page.

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Protection, and edits I couldn't put in

Would admins who protect this page please be so kind as to put in an edit with a summary that says so, even if you don't add a big honking protection template for obvious reasons? I'm of course assuming that there were good reasons for protecting it, but it's sort of hard to see who did it, why, and for how long. Now that that's over with:

I could walk away and wait for someone else to undoubtedly make these edits without my suggesting so, but that would be, like, totally un-wiki. >:-) JRM 01:14, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)

Edits are done/no longer relevant. Protection status of this page has been clarified at Wikipedia:Protected page#Visibility reasons. I'll leave this page to the admins, then. JRM 00:42, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)

Requests

  • SonglineGangleri | Th (http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php?title=User_talk:Gangleri&action=history) | T 11:30, 2005 Apr 5 (UTC)
    • I added it to the queue so it should be eventually put on the page --BrokenSegue 14:15, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Songline now has an article.
• Thorpe • 14:09, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Help

Hi, im from serbian wikipedia. I want to know how to add Wikipedia:Recentchanges to top of the page Special:Recentchanges. --Sasa Stefanovic 14:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Requests

I have created a page for a request but it is still listed on the page - why?

• Thorpe • 08:52, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Because no sysop has yet changed the list <it isn't automatic>. I'll do it right now. Thanks for pointing that out. BrokenSegue 12:16, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New requested articles list

The new way of displaying the requested articles here is ugly. What was wrong with the old way? Tuf-Kat 23:27, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Um, seconded. Please don't do that again. I'm assuming Template:RAScroller was some sort of experiment. It failed. Aside from the hideous layout, please don't get fancy with templates for no particular reason. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Hand-edited wiki wins out from templates in most cases, unless a consistent look across pages is required, or the template hides markup too fancy to bother with more than once, or a significant amount of simple but verbose markup needs to be replicated many times. The templates used here barely fall in the second category, and that only because they got deliberately fancy. JRM 23:45, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)

dumb question sugestion

I can't help thinking I'm not the only person who has no idea what the blue triangles mean... and shouldn't there also be a footnote to explain the m & N ?? just a thought Erich 23:33, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What blue triangles? I don't see any? BrokenSegue 23:34, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It's what you get when you turn on "enhanced recent changes" in your preferences (under "recent changes and stub display"). Provided JavaScript isn't disabled, you can click on the triangle to "expand" multiple changes to the same article. Coalescing these changes makes RC easier to read. I'm guessing this isn't documented explicitly because the effect is rather obvious... Though the option is not.
Quoting the top of this talk page:
For an explanation of Special:Recentchanges, see Wikipedia:Recent Changes and m:MediaWiki User's Guide: The Recent Changes page.
The latter has all you need. Footnotes on the actual page would clutter it, especially since nobody needs these after the first viewing. JRM · Talk 07:51, 2005 Apr 26 (UTC)

do you think the page could be me a little more user/newbie friendly by having a link to explanation on the page the page itself rather than the talk page? just a thought....Erich 01:13, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. The page is protected, so a sympathetic admin will have to do it. JRM · Talk 01:40, 2005 Apr 27 (UTC)
I hope my addition of "How to understand symbols, purpose, and other aspects of this page" is what you folk wanted. Questions and requests were not at all dumb. I worked out only last week what the blue triangles did! Robin Patterson 06:15, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

RCScroller

Requests:

Balakadri- Gertrude Crampton - Cecelia Dougherty - Enriched limit - Valie Export - Ayo Matsuura - Modekngei - L. Nickel - Mab Segrest - Semiregular space - Krystal Wakem - Zeenat - IO economics - NY Womens Detention - Resolvins - Ritz process - Norte del Valle cartel - Mahenge - Rosemary Nelson - Fried dough foods - Spaghetti stack - Terror management - LHRH - Athymhormia - All-pairs testing - Zwischengoldglaser - EAASY SABRE - Peaucellier-Lipkin linkage - Astrograph - c-decay - Dual power supply - Electronics industries association - Film resistor - hole mobility - DAAA Collective - Kelvin electrostatic generator (or Kelvin water dropper) - negative ion generator - power resistor - supermagnets - tachyon waves - saturation current - ethnozoology - American Council of the Blind - Trinh Minh-ha - Tara Foundation - Yassamanoot najadahadish


Add to request cue


(Suck?)

Should look like Image:Rscroller.png. Maybe usable for showing a longer list of things. Based on Template:Scroller, which is customizable {{scroller|title(left div)|height|width}}. -SV|t 22:05, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Interlang links

Why does this page have no interlang links? I miss them strongly ... --Aphaea* 09:53, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

There was an edit war a little while back over this see [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Recentchanges&action=history&limit=500&offset=0) . Apparently the links take up too much space. I think that problem is only visible when you use a certain skin. BrokenSegue 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your information. I admit it is annoying in "default" skin ... How about having "Wikipedia:All recentchanges on Wikimedia projects" and several links to major projects? (Like meta recentchanges). --Aphaea* 03:34, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I don't know if there is enough room for that. We want to keep it fairly short (in my opinion it's allready on the longish side). BrokenSegue 04:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)


The problem appears in the clasic skin (it may appear in others I don't know) see this version for the problem http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Recentchanges&oldid=10254186 Geni 04:20, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Please remove Translation request

Palm Beach Gardens, Florida has been translated, please remove it from the Recentchangestext page. Ambush Commander 20:20, May 9, 2005 (UTC)


doneGeni 22:01, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Partial redundancy

This page is obviously a good idea. However, it's partially redundant with the (admittedly newer) WP:W. Should something be done about that? Radiant_* 12:27, May 20, 2005 (UTC)


Notm. This page is high profile which is why stuff that people feel needs to be high profile ends up here. This of course conflicts with the use of the page but there are enough people who stip out anything not requirted to keep the block down to a reasonable size.Geni 13:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Could be either way - maybe WP:W would be better off merged here :) Radiant_* 13:30, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
This page works best if the text at the top is kept as minimal as posible.Geni 00:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki

I miss interwiki links to other projects ... Wikiquote, Wikibooks ... and Commons ...... and I can't find any discussion on this removal. Is it temporal or decisive? --Larus.r 06:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

no they can be put back if there is a reason and people want them.Geni 10:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
I want them back. Why were they removed? Tuf-Kat 22:11, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
you got them back. They were removed because I was try to see if there wer any other ways to reduce the size of the page.Geni 00:26, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Date of deletion principles poll

The date of the deletion principles poll has been the subject of debate on Wikipedia talk:Schools/Deletion principles poll, and the outcome has been the consensus view that May 25 is too early to hold this contentious poll while the content of the poll is still in flux. Please could someone either remove the date from Wikipedia:Recentchanges or update it to reflect the current date of June 4th? (I am not an admin so am unable to edit pages in the Wikipedia: namespace). Thanks, Lupin 14:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

  • As a side point, since when is it common practice to advertise a straw poll that doesn't even propose policy on WP:Recent changes? Especially as this one is considered by consensus to be a very bad idea. Radiant_* 14:59, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
  • The date is still wrong. Please update it to June 4th as stated on the poll. Lupin 15:23, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Link to Recent Changes tools

We should add a link to recent changes tools and not just LiveRC. For example: CryptoDerk's Vandal Fighter Is an extremely robust yet small recent changes client with regexp functionality. But no one knows about it! You could also add a link to [[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools#Other_tools)]. I'm all for keeping the top small, but this sort of stuff is the kind of stuff that needs to be stuffed up there! ;P Ambush Commander 22:52, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

I think a link from the RC patrol page would be better.Geni 22:56, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Elections

The link is sorta just hanging around there. Make it a bit more visible and align it to the left (and be more descriptive), please. Ambush Commander 19:46, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Enhancement request: show only new articles

Is it possible to have an option to show only new articles? (or to put it another way, a function equivalent to "hide all changes". There are just too many changes a day for this article to be of any use nowadays. --81.154.140.229 19:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


I think you are looking for Special:Newpages.Geni 19:45, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, that's it. So it must be easy for that to be made a standard option, same as "hide minor edits". --Red King 14:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

live recent changes feed.

Where can I get a copy of the live recent changes feed to use on my own wiki? --Phroziac 15:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RSS Feed description

The system message Recentchangestext is not only used as the heading text for the RecentChanges page but also as the description in that page's RSS feed (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss). As such, it should contain a short description (http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss#requiredChannelElements) of a few words - a sentence or two at most. The description is used as a guide by aggregators (RSS readers) and by RSS serving facilities such as Yahoo.

For this purposes of the RSS feed something like the default MediaWiki text of
Track the most recent changes to the wiki on this page.
is just fine.

So something, somewhere, really needs to change since I don't suppose we want to lose the text currently held here but nor should we be bombarding people with over a screen full of garbled text as an RSS description! --Douglas 12:54, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

One potential solution is to put hold the Recentchangestext text in a (locked) template. This template would be referenced from Recentchangestext. That way, at least the only 'garbage' being output would be the template code. For example:
The latest alterations to Wikipedia data. {{Template:Recentchangestext}}

Election link

Would we replace the current link to meta with a local one Wikipedia:Elections for the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation? I'm afraid most of people who can vote on English Wikipdia aren't eligible on meta (and will fail to vote at that time). The document itself is identical to the meta version. --Aphaea* 12:10, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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